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Hellmouth Ascension

STARTED APR 7, 2004 · 16 POSTSSome posts in this thread didn't survive.
AerynTHREAD STARTER4 posts in this thread
#1 · Apr 7, 2004
It is known to some that I found my way to the HMC because of Jon's Weekly Ascension... I was a major fan, because his articles always challenged me intellectually and he made actually points based on facts. I was excited to see that we had a new writer, so I pulled up my chair to read.

I am *appalled* at the level of unprofessionalism and the big lack of intellectual stimulation. I had a certain level of expectation, as it were, based on Jon's weekly columns. This has not even begun to rise to meet that level.

Tiffany, I mean no disrespect, I am just trying to put some constructive criticism out there for you. Number 1: Do not pretend to know mental health disorders because you have no clue. You went from schizophrenia to delusional disorder... both are seperate things.... Way off base with schizophrenia.... way don't you say.... go pick up the DSM-IV before you write about someone having something and see if they meet the criteria.
Number 2: Please use spell check. Number 3: Don't expect everyone to accept you as a writer here, when you basically insulted some us in your article.

This list could go on further, but I didn't want to waste anymore of my breath.
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#2 · Apr 8, 2004
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#3 · Apr 8, 2004
One thing I have to say about the new HA is I like the nerve of an Official Columnist of the site going against the Accepted Local Opinion. Shows perspective if nothing else.

And raisees the point from this person who followed the shwo but had no chance to actually see it; did Tim go too far, hooking his far-out but intriguing premise to a cast of charcaters who were just a bit too off-putting in themsleves? It's a question, not my opinion.
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#4 · Apr 8, 2004
I realize now that this may seem a *tad* negative, but Im' a little upset with the Ascension, so please read with caution.

I was rather surprised to see alot of the views I saw. Firstly, the show isn't purposely insulting just catholics, right? Exorcisim is a serious deal for those who believe in God. However, please know, this isn't meant to insult Catholics. Any bad rep the church has recieved due to Sex scandals is their own fault. They covered ALOT of that stuff up for decades, it is just biting them in their asses now.
Also, I do agree, stutterning could be a major problem, BUT look at what really fixed it. We find out it isn't imitation, but instead it is being comfortable. Everyone stutters when they're REALLY nervous don't they?
On Poor Bitch....That was a very cute scene. They performed an Emergency Tracheotomy (sp?) with a Bic Ballpoint. The actual joke wasn't him almost dying, it was the doctor later saying, 'Well, actually the Bic Medium Ballpoint is the pen of choice for that"
I feel that the characters are very believable, they are "over-the-top" on purpose. You are supposed to see, clear as day, that the parents and siblings are completely differnt from Jaye. Excuse me, what was that Gay comment? I sure hope that was a compliment, I take that VERY personally, and that statement was extremly over-generalized. She lives in a trailer for a reason, she feels pressured to live up to her parents and siblings and feels she must GET OUT!!! we all feel like that alot. I think the Trailer Park is alittle over the top, but it really does help the story in future eps, as I have read. In order to help her deal with her problems, she must be away from her parents and family, but not be a total isonaltionist.
One more thing,I am confused as to what the statement about her being rude and not having ethics is about. She is 23 and you expect her to be grown up?? I'm 21 and I am not very ethical and can be rude like her sometimes.

Just remember, this is TV. Everything isn't real, and we arn't all out to get your precious religions (well, Joss and I are, but thats a horse of another color).
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#5 · Apr 9, 2004
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#6 · Apr 9, 2004
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#7 · Apr 9, 2004
*Smiles wickedly*

I told you so!!!

We are everywhere....... there is no escaping us...... well if you do take the blue pill then maybe........
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#8 · Apr 9, 2004
I took the neon green pill and have never regretted it. And why do I see this whole situation ending with me running for my life in some freaky Night of the Living Dead film?
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#9 · Apr 9, 2004
Does that mean you will end up dying and on a zombie heap?

*wonders at the possiblities*
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#10 · Apr 9, 2004
I thought the Hellmouth Ascension pretty much sucked. This is a person who obviously has very little sense of humor and a lot less writing acumen than she thinks she has. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but whether that opinion should be institutionalized as a regular feature is debatable. Spelling is a minimum requirement (so is grammar). Just running counter to the majority opinion doesn't make you the next John Simon, (know who THAT is, Tiffany?) sometimes it means you just don't get what you're criticizing. I think one of the major premises of the series is that the animals may actually BE talking to Jaye...but hey, that's just me.
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#11 · Apr 10, 2004
Sorry Tiffany, I didn't like your first Hellmouth Acension either. Besides the overflowing anger and unwarranted attacks on your readers, you undermined your own argument for "poor" catholics by attacking aetheists. It was a hypocritical argument; don't attack the catholics, but it's okay if you attack the aetheists. Right. Plus, I doubt that all the writers are aetheists or even that a few of them are, but that's beside the point. If you want to support your arguments you may want to do some research and find out the facts before stating your opinions. That was the number one rule my professors instilled in me when I was doing my BA in English.

Although proper spelling, grammar and syntax aren't necessarily signs of intellect, it bothers me when people use incorrect grammar. For example, "cause" instead of "because" and incorrectly (and unecessarily) using "like" as an intensifier or qualifier.

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#12 · Apr 11, 2004
I don't usually read the Hellmouth Ascension (sorry Jon... should do it) but this week's actually had the result of making me want to watch Wonderfalls... to see what has Tiffany so angry about it. Because I must say, what strikes me about Tiffany's commentary is the tendency to shoot everywhere and strike with every possible arrow (like someone who says to a friend "You're obnoxious, you never express your feelings, and by the way you smell bad!"). So, this week's ascension makes it obvious that the author really hates Wonderfalls. The big weakness is, at the end of it, you really don't know *why* she hates it so much...
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#13 · Apr 12, 2004
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#14 · Apr 12, 2004
yes, Poobah is working for anti-puffy activists.......(now he will have to eliminate me!)

what day is the new ascension on? does she post here? i would like to talk to her about some ofher opinions. kindly of course!
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#15 · Apr 12, 2004
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#16 · Apr 12, 2004
my one and only unrealistic ship is SpAngel.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmm happy moment it my head!