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Third Hellmouth Ascension

STARTED MAY 4, 2004 · 33 POSTSSome posts in this thread didn't survive.
magikangel13THREAD STARTER3 posts in this thread
#1 · May 4, 2004
Okay,I just finished reading it,and I gotta admit,the girl has a point...but does she have to be so harsh?

No,I don't have a life.

All my little girl life,up to first year of Junior High,I was a walking doormat who felt so much like a complete alien,it wasn't even funny.

But then I started to watch Buffy.It was the first show that actually made me laugh,cry,think,and freak me out all in one hour.That show made me see life in a different way.Gave me confidence.

Buffy's over and now there's Angel.This show helped me experience a darker side.

So excuse me for trying to save my show.
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Katarain3 posts in this thread
#2 · May 4, 2004
Whatever. I couldn't even make myself read the whole thing. It's like trying to listen to a teenager with nothing valuable to say. Seriously! You need serious help! Like I like Angel too but like seriously... am I all like waaah? Ummmm... No... Like totally.

How she got a column, I'll never know. There were a lot of well-said, TRUE things written about her here--I wonder why she didn't pick any of those.

Did you notice how proud of herself she is for contributing such fine literature to the topic?

Like this one time at band camp.... I mean really!

And it is SO repetitive!

The column is pathetic. There's not much fresh content on the main page that I'm interested in anymore. I used to love the rant, but the combo thing they've been doing lately is not very interesting--it even takes forever to get to the actual rant. I miss the old rant. (Sorry Mac and Eric--I guess I'm just not in the audience for that kind of humor... However, you guys still are pretty good--way better than Tiffany.) Aeryn's "hippy" column (WHERE does Tiffany get that??) shows promise. She, thankfully, had a topic and did not repeat one point over and over again--and she doesn't write like a valley girl. So, go Aeryn!

If Mac actually wanted a serious well-written Hellmouth Ascension, he could find somebody, I'm sure. There are plenty of excellent writers at this board. At this point, with Tiffany continuing to have a column (with hardly a positive word said about here here), I'm thinking that there are some factors we don't know about. Maybe he doesn't want to hurt her feelings, maybe he likes the controversy, maybe he just doesn't care, or maybe he thinks she's pretty good. Maybe she's his sister's best-friend's boyfriend's roommate's cousin.

Whatever it is, it's pretty clear our opinions don't matter. So, why am I writing this??? Because, even if nobody's listening, I'll still say how I feel about it.

Oh, and if she actually has a fan base (which I think she's just posturing about--I don't remember actually reading that quote anywhere), why are they not defending her here?

And before you think I don't like her column because I disagree, that's not it. If she had any talent as a writer, I would be a lot more generous. And I really do mean any talent. If she had the ability to present her ideas in a reasoned, logical way--with supports, then I could easily forgive the grammar problems.

(And she can't see the obvious superiority of shows in the Buffyverse/WhedonWorld? Why is she here again, writing for a show she only kinda likes?)
And you... You wouldn't be able to touch me. Because this-- this thing with you -- it's wrong! I know it! Not a complete idiot! You think I like having you here?! Destroying everything that was me until all that's left is you in a dead shell.
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#3 · May 4, 2004
KAtarain; she was quoting soemthing I'd said about her first column; I didn't however, think it would classify me as one of her fans Embarassed . Do me a favor, Tiffie-tiffie*, please don't quote me Mad .

(*My future ex-wife and I used to ahev a Maltese named Tiffany and we called her that soemtimes.)
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#4 · May 4, 2004
Still improving. However she could use a little more proof reading. When a normal poster throws out a remark, you expect a few typos & misused words to crop up. With a columnist the proofing should be more stringent. As a reader, I can pick out flaws such as “writing the Olympics” instead of "winning" them, "there" instead of "their" or other such irrelevant mistakes. I prefer to look at the intended meaning and ignore flubs. I don’t care about these minor mistake issues, as long as the errors do not harm or obscure the message. Personally I have and will continue to make plenty of my own typos, punctuation and definition errors. In any case, I do not need or want one columnist telling me the other columnist makes more errors.

What is with HMC columnists bashing one another? There are plenty of fans, outside columnists, actors and TV executives available to be bashed. We don’t need an inter column war. There is a place for both acerbic humor and analytic discussion in a pleasant “hippy rant” style. There are some people (Me included) who like and appreciate both styles. I personally enjoy the overstatement and hyper inflated ego reflected in the humorous ranting of Tiffany. I am also a fan of the polite discussion contained in the other column. Both have their place on the board. I believe it is easier to write a criticism of a show or article than it is to write a positive well reasoned supportive critique. Don't assume that an article is weak, poorly thought out and pandering to the public, just because it is positive towards the show.

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#5 · May 4, 2004
Katarain - I'm sorry you don't like the format of the rant.

As for the Ascension - no comment....

....for now. Wink
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#6 · May 4, 2004
Not trying to be an ass here (though I know I can safely be accused of worse) but . . .

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#7 · May 4, 2004
hmmmmmmm is it me or is there something fishy about this whole thing?
hmmmmmmm why am i not convinced
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#8 · May 4, 2004
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#9 · May 4, 2004
I'm with you two. There's something fishy going on here.
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#10 · May 4, 2004
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#11 · May 4, 2004
I don't usually read people's columns here - something I have to correct now that I have more time in the evenings - but I read the Hellmouth Ascension because some people asked me to take a look at it. And I'll go with what's been said... it sounds like a teen throwing a tantrum. I get the messages she's trying to convey, but the way she's trying to convey them, whoa...

Anyway... just my opinion.
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#12 · May 4, 2004
Sprook said,
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#13 · May 4, 2004
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#14 · May 4, 2004
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#15 · May 4, 2004
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#16 · May 4, 2004
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#17 · May 4, 2004
Yeah, Otts. Read it. Her columns really are good.
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#18 · May 4, 2004
Hey Aeryn do we get mega bonus points if we gang up on Otts? Laughing

Otts check out Aeryn's divine musings Twisted Evil

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#19 · May 5, 2004
one of my favourite bands is The Ghostwriters.

*walks out whistling "Mack the Knife"*
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#20 · May 5, 2004
Very subtle, Mr. P...and I'm with you on the same page...

GAAAH! Too...many...conspiracy...theories...
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#21 · May 5, 2004
Fogey; Are you sure "writing the Olympics" was a typo? MAybe it has some hidden meaning.
And while I've never seen it, there is (or was) a Braille edition of Playboy.

As to Conspiracy Theories; I have a conspiracy theory about them.
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Darla:Well you're certainly like Drusilla described. (voiceover;imbecile)
Harmony;And you seem like you could keep her,Spike, and Angel from killing each other (vo;megabitch)
Both glare then giggle
D: Hey, did you come here for dinner too?
H:Actually I felt like dancing, this place usually hops but tonight it's deader than we are.
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#22 · May 5, 2004
Mac-I just enjoyed the old format better, that's all. I feel as if my time has been in really short supply lately, so I want to get to the point in everything QUICKER! Smile Also, I liked the essay style, because you went into further detail in your reasons. Maybe it's just because I'm a snobby English teacher. Smile I can, however, appreciate the current format. It's supposed to be funny, I get it. Smile Hey, you can't please everybody! Smile

Or maybe you could.... Smile You could do two columns! (Since I know you have tons of time. Wink ) One like the old rant, and one with Eric. Very Happy

Anyway... I just finished my last paper, so I'm officially on summer break. Don't know yet whether I'll take more classes this summer.

So, I'm a lot more happy and easy about things. I don't care quite as much about the whole Tiffany fiasco. Smile Maybe it IS a joke!! Maybe it's Jonathan in drag. Smile

In peace--with flowers and sunshine and puppies,
Katarain
And you... You wouldn't be able to touch me. Because this-- this thing with you -- it's wrong! I know it! Not a complete idiot! You think I like having you here?! Destroying everything that was me until all that's left is you in a dead shell.
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#23 · May 5, 2004
Could I possibly squeeze one more Smile into that post???

SHEESH!
And you... You wouldn't be able to touch me. Because this-- this thing with you -- it's wrong! I know it! Not a complete idiot! You think I like having you here?! Destroying everything that was me until all that's left is you in a dead shell.
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#24 · May 5, 2004
*goes to read Aeryn's column, since it gets so much high praise, which I'm sure is warranted*
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#25 · May 5, 2004
This girl cannot write. She goes on and on for like 20 years, but it's the same shit over and over. I agree with Otts, it just sounds like a teen throwing a tantrum. A little advice, Tiffany...go out and have this so-called life you seem to be so proud of, and leave the writing for the people who are actually fans of the show, like Aeryn....I like her columns. Twisted Evil
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#26 · May 5, 2004
Am I the only one who likes Tiff's style of humor Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

This type of over the top immature rant is designed to stir things up. Judging by this and the prior thread it succeeded. I may not agree with a lot of what she attempts to say, but it is fun to come here and reply in kind by ranting about her misguided rant.

Hey! Tiffany gives us something that lets us unite as a group in joint xenophobia towards the evil outsider. Wink

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#27 · May 5, 2004
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#29 · May 5, 2004
It's all gravy. Smile
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#30 · May 6, 2004
I can appreciate Very Happy the kind of humor Tiff is doing, I've done it myself, altho it's a question Confused how many people recognize Wink that sort of thing as humor Shocked -one reason Embarassed why I don't do it anymore Rolling Eyes .

Fogey, sprook; not touching it this time, albeit the thought of an expensive slick magazine with a jar-full of Heinz Brown Gravy on it strikes me as...soemthing.
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#31 · May 6, 2004
This chick totally sounds like a Valley Girl. I mean it's, like, grody to the max.
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#32 · May 6, 2004
If i ever actually met Tiffany i think i would rip her arms of and stomp her to death. I can't stand you as a writer. Please stop. Everytime i read your column it makes me so annoyed.
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#33 · May 8, 2004
Same here.The really sad part is that she's most likely older than me and even I think she sounds immature.
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